THE MARCH OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD CONTINUES, AS PREDICTED.

This is not a gloat, because it is a tragedy. I predicted the Egyptian takeover from the start, that the entire middle east fiasco was, and still is, a power play by the Muslim Brotherhood to take control and to spread the beginnings of the new Islamic caliphate…which, in its long range plans, includes the western world. And it is happening. They are successful. I also predicted Libya…who we assisted with military might.  We helped to bring this notorious, vicious organization seize control of Egypt, now it will be Libya and others will follow.

The Muslim Brotherhood is the most extreme Islamic/political power in the world. Their tentacles are in process of swallowing Europe in another generation, and they have more than 40 spin-off organizations that they have spawned in the United States, including CAIR, ISNA and the MSA. They are the people who, according to their own words, will lead the Islamist conquest of the United States, from within..using deceit more than violence. Listen to their words. Everything they said they would do, they are doing. And we’re yawning.

Those who don’t know these facts, have simply not done their homework. The Muslim Brotherhood is simply carrying out the edicts of Muhammed, himself.

I have often written about the secret manifestos that have been uncovered by law enforcement which spell out their goals and their strategies in achieving power, but most Americans choose to bury their heads in the sand…which means it will be too late when they realize their mistake. I have linked two of them below.

Our president, sadly, is among the minions who — by ignorance or design — is helping the MB to achieve their goals in the United States. Get the economy out of our heads for a moment and see the trends of the Muslim Brotherhood and how it connects to the president. If there is no other reason to vote him out of office, this is the most critical. With four more years of unaccountable “flexibility,” the tone for our grandchildren will be set forever, and they will become the oppressed minority, much like it is happening today in Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, England, France and other places in Europe.

Libya elections: Muslim Brotherhood set to lead government – Telegraph

The WatchMen from Israel on the Wall – News: Libya elections: Muslim Brotherhood set to lead government

http://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/misc/20.pdf

The Muslim Brotherhood’s “Project” for Israel and America – Discover the Networks

36 Responses to THE MARCH OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD CONTINUES, AS PREDICTED.

  1. Christopher Jones July 6, 2012 at 2:14 pm #

    As usual, you are exactly right on this. The fact that we yawn on what is going to happen in the US is the scariest.

    Our low life media tells us what we need to worry about. Moosie takeover is not on their radar, because they actually think Islam is no danger to us…and to them. It is almost funny that the media, full of homosexuals, athiests, agostics and others Islam considers infidels, will be the first to go. And when I say go, they will be losing their minds by virtue of having their heads removed from their bodies.

    But oh…what a peaceloving bunch they are.

    NOT.

  2. Steve Gure July 6, 2012 at 2:52 pm #

    I agree with you that the the president either by ignorance or design is helping the MB achieve their aim and must be voted out of office for this reason alone if one wishes to disregard everything else. The problem that I have is that neither Romney or anyone else is clearly stating their position on this very great threat that is facing our nation. They all are either trying very hard to be politicaly correct or ignore reality.. Things will have to get much worse before we are awakened. I hope it does not come too late

  3. Ralph E. July 6, 2012 at 3:06 pm #

    Snake Hunter Sez,

    Focus your attention on Marshall’s final Link… The Muslim Brotherhood “Project”.

    Our CIA people found these muslim brotherhood documents in a raid on a secret Switzerland Luxury Mansion that tells the world exactly what these evil bastards have been planning for the last 20 years!

    IF anyone would like to view it, or comment… simply tap this Snake Hunter Link:

    http://www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.com
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  4. Bill Solen July 6, 2012 at 3:39 pm #

    Just as Predicted, so nothing changes and the MB movement continues.

    Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again,
    but expecting different results.
    – Rita Mae Brown, also attributed to Einstein

  5. reality July 6, 2012 at 3:43 pm #

    It’s like the Gypsy Rose Lee song, but “you gotta have an enemy” for the Military-industrial complex to keep being subsidized by taxpayers? Ayman al Zawahiri was in the U.S Three times, with Clinton staffers finding out about one of his visits after the fact, and the FBI telling them “we’ve got it covered”. Many, many imans were brought to the U.S, often by staunch “conservative” or “Christian” people who warned then about the “godless Commie” threat to destroy America” during President’s Reagan’s restart of the “Cold War”. All Marshall’s done is replace “Commie” with “Muslim”. And it wasn’t the Media who “yawned” in 1990, when Muslims were practicing at a NY shooting range. It was the FBI squad who “got Gotti”, and filed the photos, and Giuliani’s good friend Michael Makasey who ignored them. Oh, and muslim Emad Salem was the main witness at that trial that convicted the Blind Sheik, who our CIA had given a visa to. (Triple Cross, by Peter Lance) The NY FBI got Ramzi Yousef’s computer from the Phillipine police, and his best friend Murad (who had already trained at 4 different flight schools in the U.S) in 1995. The FBI thank you memo is in the appendix of “Triple Cross”. http://www.justiceblind.com/airplanes.html

    • JKR July 7, 2012 at 12:49 am #

      Reality:
      Actually, the Gypsy Rose Lee song was “You’ve got to have a gimmick”, not enemy. I’m not sure about the rest of your quotes.

  6. Pat Wilson July 6, 2012 at 4:32 pm #

    I read a book written in 2004 (and I told you before about this book, Marshall), written by a man who had studied the history of the world as it was known from the time of the Roman Empire to the present, and which countries or political groups were influencing “the world” as it was known at various centuries. He was appraoched by an individual in 1991 or -92 and asked who he thought would be the world influence in the comming years, China or Russia. His answer was “Neither–look out for the Muslims”. This was long before Obama chose to run for the Presidency. I am sick and tired of Obama being blamed for every negative thing that happens in this country! Obama, like a lot of people in this country, know the war is not the answer to bring about piece!
    We now have been involved in the longest war in our country’s history–begun by a REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT who attacked Iraq–a Middle Eastern country! But that “wonderful” President Bush does not get blamed for anything!

    The “Arabs”, as we called them, were coming to Detroit, MI in the 1970’s, and we accepted them because they were friendly and caused no problems. But they soon moved into a suburb of Detroit, West Dearborn, and has slowly developed a decided influence in that city. I feel certain that West Dearborn could not be the only city in the country similarly influenced. Again, this was long before Obama’s Presidency. But some states have voted that there will be no shariah law used for them. I hope this continues. And Muslim Brotherhood’s whining does have to be stopped.

  7. Yoda July 6, 2012 at 5:17 pm #

    Assalamu Alaikum! good Captain:………Means peace be with you

    Here is a peaceful phrase from the good book that Muslims read 5 times each and every day

    Qur’an 48:13: “If any believe not in Allah and his Messenger, we have prepared a Blazing Fire for them!”

    It is an insult to logic believing that President Barrack Hussein Obama is not a Muslim. Who but a Muslim would say that the call to prayer is the sweetest sound in the world. He has in fact appointed two Czars with links to the Brotherhood.

    The present and past four president;s of the United States of America have enthusiasticaly sold us the; peaceful, tolerant, moderate Muslims.religion.

    A study conducted by the Pew Research Center in 2010 and released January 2011[15][3] found that there are 1.62 billion Muslims around the world, accounting for roughly 1 in 4 people.

    Given four more years there will be a crescent moon flag flapping over the White House

    Be aware and be prepared.

    Right on good Captain – WRITE ON!

    Respectfully, Yoda@magnifiedview.com

    Cultures Clash and Civilizations Crash – magnifiedview.com

  8. Ralph E. July 6, 2012 at 6:12 pm #

    Snake Hunter Sez,

    THAR SHE BLOWS… AGAIN! ~ It’s Ms Un-Reality’s Canned B.S. Still Shot-Gunning a Few Dozen Pellets (Subjects) at a Paper Target. What a Ding Bat — Blah, blah, blah.

    What’s This? Does she have another accomplice, with Pat Wilson’s instant Bum-rapping of George Bush? Sounds Like It.

    Mr. Pat Wilson quotes an un-named person…. that has “studied the history of the world… from the time of the Roman Empire…” Sir, please STOP.. Allow me to give you a more precise, Dated Account (Link) from that era, Without the Left-Wing SPIN, That’s Clearly Designed to Muddy Up The Details … AND WITH A TRUE 1400 YEARS OF UGLY MUSLIM WARS, IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER, Beginning 622 A.D

    Trust, But Verify!

    Simply Go To The S/H Archives Column (left side of opening page) tap March 25, 2010…for ‘Continuum of Wars’ — > then Click to Print, for your history files. – reb

    http://www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.com
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  9. Ron Kenerly July 6, 2012 at 7:36 pm #

    The western world can not win this battle as they do not have the stomach or the staying power to do what is required to stop the spread of Islam around the world. The Muslim world has produced a large and vastly spread of extremely dedicated people who follow orders blindly and are actually willing to die for their cause because it is an honor to do so. The laws of the USA will also assist them because the authorities are hamstrung in so many ways that they can not take the appropriate action required to isolate and eliminate the cells before they take action. Police today are on the verge of becoming like firemen…they can only do their jobs after the fire is burning, and this fire is so large it will go uncontrolled until it consumes everything.
    I did learn many things about Muslims during the years I lived and worked in Saudi….but the two most vivid many of us ex-pats learned and knew to be the absolute truth… 1. Infidels are genuinely hated by all Muslims, and 2. The only way to stop the Islamic movement is to kill each and every one of them. There will NEVER be peace between a Muslim and a follower of any other faith as long as a single person of either following is left standing….there can not be any survivors….and if the Muslim’s prevail, you can bet your last dollar, they will eliminate all infidels without any mercy.
    I say it is well past the time for people not of the Muslim faith to band together and take a stand or prepare yourselves to accept the consequences.

  10. reality July 6, 2012 at 8:05 pm #

    Rambo III (1988), Sly Stallone’s movie about when U.S taxpayers were spending at least $2 BILLION to arm and train any Muslim, really, willing to fight the “Godless Commies who were going to bury us”. Remember? And the Saudis, who don’t even allow Jews into their country, were our allies. Still are? And all the other Sharia law countries with oil that don’t even allow Jews into their countries either, are customers of our Military Industrial Complex. Of the motorcycle makers on TV, too, I see. So how come we didn’t embargo Muslim oil after 9/11? We still embargo Cuba. Oh, wait. The Saudis boycotted us, after the Israeli war where the Israelis attacked an American ship by plane & submarine-the unarmed Liberty. That’s why there was no gas at the pumps during Carter’s term. Only Saddam Hussein would sell us oil, I think, which was when he got rich. Saddam did make all the Jews leave Iraq, but the Christians were allowed to stay, and had lived peacefully among Shia and Sunni muslims all during Saddam’s reign. Bush destroyed all that, and charged us all $3 Trillion. Now so many Americans were like born again on January 20, 2009, and all of Bush’s and the Saudi’s actions are just wiped out of your minds? I wonder if God will be so forgetful. Or will He have a list as long as Marshall’s and Roger’s? Or maybe He will say: I gave you all this beautiful planet to share, and all you do is play “King of the Mountain”?

  11. Ralph E. July 6, 2012 at 8:27 pm #

    Snake Hunter… “Good Grief Gertie”!!!

    More Gibberish from Un-reality w/ Gypsy Rose Lee and Rambo III

    Where’s Pamela with a wad of Cherry Bubble-Gum… and some Snake-Bait?
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    • JKR July 6, 2012 at 10:41 pm #

      Actually, the Gypsy Rose Lee song was “You’ve got to have a gimmick”, not enemy.

  12. GLORIA DISANTO July 7, 2012 at 3:19 am #

    HI MARSH,
    I HEARD A STORY TODAY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PASS ON. A MUSLIM MAN
    ON HIS WAY TO THE MASQUE FOR PRAYER IN CLEVELAND WAS INVOLVED
    IN A MINOR ALTERCATION, AFTER THE PUSHING AND SHOVING THE MAN
    BEGAN TO LAUGH AND SAID LOUDLY TO ALL THAT WITNESSED THE EVENT
    “YOU AMERICANS ARE SO STUPID, WE WILL OWN YOU IN THE NEXT TEN
    YEARS, CAN YOU NOT SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING?”
    I BELEIVE WITH ALL MY HEART WE ARE IN GRAVE DANGER OF THIS BECOMING TRUE. WHAT IS WRONG WITH US?

    GLORIA

  13. reality July 7, 2012 at 10:20 am #

    Sorry, JKR, I should have said a parody? of the Gypsy Rose Lee song, I guess. I’m old, and remember all the fear generated by that was it FBI show, Richard Philbin, about the enemy within, then “The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming”, then the Yellow Horde, then Nicaragua was going to invade Texas. I remember Ike looking so tired and worn out, and if you google, “Why we fight”, you can see him giving that farewell speech. I’ll paraphrase or whatever the word is here: the US has never had an official, like govt. supported “defense” industry before, and we don’t know what will happen when that “defense” industry gets so much power, and influencence, “whether sought or unsought”, I think Ike used those words. Now I’ve read we have the equivalent of 2 more Pentagons added to our Deficit?, even though the first one was completely incompetent to prevent 9/11. “Triple Cross” by Peter Lance-they even destroyed their own data mining info that showed Osama’s connection to Rabbi Kahane’s killer in 1990. Because the Saudis and other Muslims were our “freedom fighters” against the “godless Commies who were going to bury us”?

  14. Pamela Jarvis July 7, 2012 at 9:57 pm #

    To Gloria: Just for the record…..the word is “mosque”. Spell-check is a great option for published writers.

    • paul vincent zecchino July 11, 2012 at 1:11 am #

      The mosque is their ‘masque’. Many are reputed to be armories and combat command posts.

  15. Ralph E. July 11, 2012 at 3:42 am #

    Snake Hunter Sez,

    Pre 9/11, the Saudi “Stealth Jihad” had 700 mosques operating in the U.S. In 2012
    they have over 2,000 mosques, all staffed by bi-lingual Imams, On-call, and ready to
    come to your church or synagog to preach the “values of co-existance” with peace and love, and how we American infidels can “build bridges to understanding” by submission to their holy book, and allowing Shari’a Law to infiltrate and mitigate (to make less harmful) our United States Constitution.

    The Figh (deeper meaning) of this invasion strategem is…. SURRENDER TO ISLAM.

    FINAL SOLUTION: OUR U.S. B-52 STEALTH…IS CAPABLE OF EVADING ENEMY RADAR, THEN ACCURATELY DELIVER ENOUGH ORDINANCE TO WIPE THEM… OFF THE MAP. – IRAN’S AHMADINEJAD WANTS TINY ISRAEL WIPED OFF THE MAP,
    AND ‘WE THE PEOPLE’ MUST COME TO UNDERSTAND MUSLIM INTENTIONS. – reb

    http://www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.com
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  16. reality July 11, 2012 at 9:17 am #

    Two of our B-52 Stealth bombers ruined the surprise of Bush’s invasion of Iraq, when our “Intelligence” agencies said Saddam was in a certain building. They snuck in and bombed it. No Saddam. Each B-52 Bomber costs half a BILLION $$, and needs special hangars to protect it. 10 years spent trying to wipe Afghanistan & Iraq off the map. “How’re we doing so far”? $3 Trillion credit card bill for your way. Seen a photo of Japan’s Hiroshima recently-highrises, thriving city? We forgave them for Pearl Harbor, the Bataan Death march, etc.. Now we borrow money from them. Peace, co-existence works. The Germans killed how many Jews? We forgave them too.

  17. Christopher Jones July 11, 2012 at 12:37 pm #

    FACT CHECK…since you are so particular about getting it all right…

    FIRST: “Two of our B-52 Stealth bombers ruined the surprise of Bush’s invasion of Iraq,”

    Stealth bombers are not B-52’s. B-52’s replaced the B-47 in the early 50’s, and are still being used, but a Stealth bomber is not a B-52. If you want to cry about the so called truth, then learn the facts before you write your drivel.

    SECOND AND THIRD: “We forgave them for Pearl Harbor, the Bataan Death march, etc.. Now we borrow money from them. Peace, co-existence works. The Germans killed how many Jews? We forgave them too.”

    IN What universe do you live? You may have forgiven the Japs for Pearl Harbor, but I haven’t, and will never until they apologize for it, which they have not yet done. I do not buy Japanese products, and will not. I wish I could buy nothing but American made, and GO OUT OF MY WAY TO DO JUST THAT, but alas, we make it very difficult for businesses here when we have the highest business tax rates in the world.
    FInally, I do not hold it directly against Germany today for the holocaust. I do hold it against the Nazi’s, and have not forgiven or forgotten what they did to the Jews. I also have not forgotten that the Nazi ba****ds hired Muslims to kill Jews, something they seem to like, and something this blog is all about.

  18. reality July 11, 2012 at 4:06 pm #

    Sorry, Christopher Jones: Ralph called it a B-52 Stealth bomber. Was it a B-52 that George McGovern flew so expertly, saving his crew one time? He enlisted the day after Pearl Harbor, while Bob Dole waited till he knew he was going to be drafted. Walter Lord wrote “Day of Infamy” about Pearl Harbor, and I have never forgotten the stupidity and carelessness of those responsible for such lousy military decisions. Including General MacArthur for have 8 hours notice, and doing NOTHING to get his troops out of harms’ way. I confess I read the whole of “Rise and Fall of the Third Reich”, and remember nothing about Muslims being mentioned. PBS recently showed again the 1933 Olympic Games, and I didn’t see any Muslim faces in those cheering crowds. Or in “The Goebbels Diaries”, which is on DVD at the library. Wouldn’t they be mistaken for Jews? Our own IBM sold those first card sorting computer type machines to the Nazis to keep track of the Dutch jews. “Triple Cross”, by Peter Lance. The incompetence and stupidity, and what sure sounds like dereliction of duty is documented.

    • Christopher Jones July 11, 2012 at 8:33 pm #

      If Geo. McGovern flew a B-52 in WW2, I would have voted for him. You see, REALITY (omg are you for real?) WW2 ended in 1945. The B-52 came out in the 50’s, after we went from the B-29 (that includes the famous Enola Gay), which came out near the end of WW2, to the B-47, a jet bomber which quickly was seen as too small and lacked the range we wanted, so we went to the B-52, also a jet. BTW, we still use the B-52 today. Along with the Stealth. Don’t be blaming Ralph for your ignorance. Ralph is a WW2 veteran, and knows full well what a bomber is, and the correct designation of any stealth jet. If good old Geo McGovern flew a plane, it was a prop. job. . Google it if you need to understand what I just wrote.BTW, if McGovern flew a plane, then good for him. My dad did too. It was a B-24, the most used bomber in WW2, and a virtual death trap if it caught fire.

      You keep stating how you print nothing but facts facts facts. But I find you to be wrong wrong wrong on many factual issues. You must have read one book in your life however…Triple Cross, because you have mentioned it about 25 times in various posts. Here’s a hint. Read some more. You might be surprised at what you can find out.

  19. Ralph E. July 12, 2012 at 4:11 am #

    Snake Hunter Sez,

    We are all subject to error…. I was a mountain trooper, not an airman. I was referring to the “B-2 Stealth”, a recent bomber added to our air assets, that is capable of evading IRAN’s borrowed radar technology from OBAMA’s questionable friend Vladimir Putin.

    I saw the blue skies over northern Italy, nearing the end of WWII, blackened with countless dozens of B-24 ‘Liberator’ Bombers heading north to their Nazi targets, and the sight, and roar of those engines are still indelible in my mind. I also saw 4 P-38’s
    drop their napalm tanks on the German MLR at 8 AM, at the foot of Mt. Belvedere!!!
    That FRIED the nazi ‘main-line-of-resistance’ that morning, and saved quite a few of our infantry troopers that day. Napalm is jellied gas, and once ablaze anyone in the neighborhood might need some sunburn salve. Bad stuff.

    Christopher is correct. The Luftwaffe had a few experimental jet aircraft that flew briefly, but the war was over before they could mass produce them. Just pure luck.

    I was nineteen when we landed in Napoli (Naples), and I recall hearing about the death of FDR on a small radio before the war ended. On August 6th, 1945 I was 20 years old, and part of the 10th Mtn Division on a troop ship half way across the Atlantic, when we got the news over the ship’s intercom about our detonation of the A-bomb over Hiroshima! Our Division was sheduled to be a small part of an INVASION
    FLEET PREPARING TO ASSAULT THE MAIN ISLAND OF JAPAN IN NOVEMBER,

    Much, much larger than D-Day, June 6th, 1944!!! Millions of Lives Were Spared On Both Sides… With That Decision… The President said, “The Buck Stops Here”!!!!!

    Harry Truman “the man from missouri” has been my personal hero ever since. – reb

    >>

    http://www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.com
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  20. reality July 12, 2012 at 9:40 am #

    Sorry, I’m 70, and don’t always have time to check everything: This is from Wikipedia: (George) “McGovern grew up in Mitchell, South Dakota, where he was a renowned debater. He volunteered for the U.S. Army Air Forces upon the country’s entry into World War II and as a B-24 Liberator pilot flew 35 missions over German-occupied Europe. Among the medals awarded him was a Distinguished Flying Cross for making a hazardous emergency landing of his damaged plane and saving his crew.”
    “Triple Cross”, by Peter Lance, is important, because all those who died on 9/11 deserve an investigation, in my opinion. And it was after WWII that General Doolittle and many others got this horrendous fear of Communism, that led to our putting the son of a Nazi sympathizer in power in Iran, in 1953, instead of the secular scholar Mossadegh.

    • Christopher Jones July 12, 2012 at 3:26 pm #

      OMG OMG OMG. You are saying because you are 70, you don’t check everything? And that is an excuse?
      Sorry lady, but that doesn’t cut the mustard. YOU have continually claimed to be the teller of the truth…the person who always states the facts. Guess that just flys in the face of the truth.

      I am glad Geo Mc G was a pilot in WW2. I drive a Jeep complete with military stars, commemorating another pilot from WW2, which has his service number emblazoned across the hood of my Jeep. Whenever I see it, I remember fondly my buddy who flew an unarmed airplane in the China Burma India campaign. If you don’t know what that was, google it. Those guys were incredibly brave.
      I respect and admire every WW2 vet, every Korean War vet, every Viet Nam vet, and our modern day soldiers, sailors and Marines. My older brother who served in Viet Nam twice still vividly remembers how he was spit on by people in the airport when he arrived back from his second tour. That treatment was from the uber leftists, the commie sympathisers, and generated by decrepid creatures such as Walter Crankcase…uh Cronkite, of the Communist Broadcasting System, and the likes of Hanoi Jane Fonda, who I would not urinate on if she was on fire.

      Triple Cross is one persons opinion. Period. My comments were and continue to be you need to read other books, and not just rely on one which you happen to agree with for all your ideas.

      The fear of communism is still a reality, no pun intended. Your statement that WE put someone in power in a foreign country is laughable, however. You make rash statements, but do not back up your statements will the entire truth…and I invite you to do so, if you are able to. Don’t use age as an excuse not to research and prove your thesis.
      If you insist on posting on this blog, which is your right as a free person in this country, you might understand that anything your write is subject for intense debate. Failure to be able to back up everything with factual data, will result in intense responses.

      ALL THAT SAID, this blog is still about the march of the muslim brotherhood, AND the danger that presents. It isn’t about Geo. Mc G., or any of the other stuff I responded to above. And you know what??? It is not about who is to blame or not to blame for this. It IS about the fact that the “brotherhood” is encouraging Sharia Law, and imposing it when they can. It IS about the maniacal insistance of the muslims to imposed their way of life (it is NOT a religion) on everyone, INCLUDING us, and it IS about Barry Hussein Obama Sotero (or whatever his real last name is) allowing muslims free reign in the US. (Please Please don’t reply that it all started under Bush.) It IS about muslims stoning Christians in Dearborn Michegan, JUST THIS MONTH. It is about a muslim member of the United States H. of R. publically stating we ought to pattern our public schools after Madrassas, also JUST THIS MONTH. The muslim movement is the closest thing I have ever seen to nazism…a hate filled dictatorship in the making. And you have your head firmly planted in the sand if you fail to see it. FORGET about how we got here. FORGET about the Obama tactic of BLAMING BUSH whoever you want to blame. LET US deal with the problem that is coming.

  21. reality July 12, 2012 at 4:24 pm #

    Gee, I called a B-2 Stealth bomber a B-52, as Ralph had said, I was outraged at Bush endangering our troops trying to surprise attack Saddam, and Bush gives away their movements. How many Americans died or were wounded because the Commader in Chief acted on faulty intelligence? Admiral Zinni was one of many Military men who warned that Saddam had killed or chased out all of our “intelligence” sources, and Chalabi was stringing us along for the money. And the Saudis are Sunni Muslims, strict adherents of Sharia law, and financial backers of suicide bomber schools throughout the world. Kuwait, too. And Dick Cheney was Bush’s Defense secretary, when our troops make war on Saddam because those Muslim nations were scared to death of Saddam. But you’re furious at Obama’s dead father for being born into the Muslim religion in Kenya, Africa. Not at the oil-producing Muslims, one of who is the second largest stockholder in Murdoch’s news corps. Surely Cheney would have known about the Pentagon’s data mining that started in August 1999, which showed all of Osama’s connections. So why did President Bush immediately stop the drones from following Osama, and make his first Security Council meeting about getting rid of Saddam? Richard Clarke, a Reagan appointee, could not get Cheney to even convene the anti-terrorism panel he thought was so necessary. “Inside Job” by Jim Marrs, said sometime in June of 2000, an order went out that the Commanders of all our military air bases, had to get permission from the Pentagon to send a plane in the air in an emergency, like when Paine Stewart’s transponger went off. Who gave that order? And again, if this is about the Muslim threat to America, why is there no boycott of Saudi oil? Did all of you so terrified now, call for such a boycott after 9/11? Did you demand President Bush keep all the Saudis in the U.S, esp. Osama’s family, as material witnesses/hostages? We’ve embargoed the Shia Muslims of Iran for how many years, while the Sunni oil producers are still our good buddies. If you are really against Sharia law, and Muslims who hate Jews, put your money where your mouth is, and call for a boycott of Saudi/Kuwaiti Muslim oil.

  22. Christopher Jones July 12, 2012 at 7:48 pm #

    You said:
    “And Dick Cheney was Bush’s Defense secretary, when our troops make war on Saddam”

    My reply: What Bush are you talking about?

    You said:
    “But you’re furious at Obama’s dead father for being born into the Muslim religion in Kenya, Africa. Not at the oil-producing Muslims, one of who is the second largest stockholder ”

    My reply: Furious about what? When did I say that? Are you assuming something? You know what happens when you assume something….Tsk Tsk. Oh, yeah, it is Islam that is the so called religion, that I maintain is a political way of life, a philosophy, not a religion. Just saying…

    You said:
    “So why did President Bush immediately stop the drones from following Osama, and make his first Security Council meeting about getting rid of Saddam? ”

    My reply: Can you supply how you know this information, or is it another assumption? In other words, PROVE IT.

    You said:
    “when Paine Stewart’s transponger went off”

    My reply: What is a transponger? And who is Paine Stewart?

    You said:
    “And again, if this is about the Muslim threat to America, why is there no boycott of Saudi oil?”

    My reply: We ought to be boycotting all middle eastern oil, and be buying NOTHING from these radicals. Obama won’t let us become independant by allowing us to develop our own natural resoures WHILE we perfect alternative energy programs, which once again, (solar panels) do not work well.

    You said:
    If you are really against Sharia law, and Muslims who hate Jews, put your money where your mouth is, and call for a boycott of Saudi/Kuwaiti Muslim oil.

    My reply: Absolutely works for me. I would like to see the Muslims have to drink the oil to satisfy their thirst. I don’t care if they are shiites, sunnis, or whatever. They pretty much hate us, hate the Jews, and want to impose their twisted philosophy on us. When oil is a non issue, and worth nothing, those camel jockeys will be riding around the desert eating scorpions or whatever they do, just like they did a thousand years ago. DRILL HERE DRILL NOW BABY.

  23. reality July 13, 2012 at 4:19 pm #

    This is not where I read about Bush 43 stopping the drones trailing Osama; I think it was Richard Clarke quoting Ashcroft telling one of his employees, words to the effect that Ashcroft was sick of hearing about terrorists, and did not want to hear one more word about them. http://www.salon.com/topic/911/ And Bush 43 told the CIA to “lay off” the Saudis. Dick Cheney was Bush 41’s defense secretary, and explained that they had not gone on to Bagdad to remove Saddam, because “without Saddam, Iraq would spin off into chaos”. But Paul O’Neill, former Alcoa chairman, Bush 43’s treasury secretary, gung ho to improve America after the inauguration, said the very first National Security meeting he attended, was to plan how to get rid of Saddam. I think that’s when Cheney told him, “Ronald Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter”. We’ve subscribed to print newspapers-even the Stuart news reported the obit of “Earthquake Muldoon’s” body being found in Laos. His CIA owned cargo plane was shot down while on a mission to drop a howizer to the French trapped at Dien Bien Phu. I don’t know if you’re a fan of the “I, Claudius” series, where over and over he says, “all the poisons are coming out in the mud”. Our problems too, started long ago. Yet all of you seem to blame Obama, and if it’s not fury I’m reading in all these posts, what do you call it? Marshall became very upset when I said it looked like hate. Again, what do you call it? 620,000 Americans died in our “Civil War”. Why? We are told Lincoln was going to end slavery, but in his first inaugural address, he says no such thing. He promises to enforce even the really awful laws already enacted. We are told it was a matter of States’ rights for the South, yet read the So. Carolina articles of Secession, and there’s their demand to continue slavery. Now all of you that seem to be so mad, do not seem to realize you are dividing our nation, again. You may not think you are attacking the Constitution, but “in order to form a more perfect Union” are the VERY FIRST WORDS of the Constitution. Washington, Jefferson, Madison, etc. all the slave owners maybe realized it should be abolished, but couldn’t do it? Let’s hope. Obama hopes. Do you, with your discouraging words about even Solar energy? As I am forced to continue to subsidize NASA, that shoots missiles at the moon? You’re all worried about Muslims? Where is your faith? Just saw a muslim schoolgirl in a headscarf speaking better English than most Americans, say how happy her family would be to see her on TV at the Olympics. Just watch Jesse Owens go arm in arm with the tall blond German, after beating him in the long jump, after the German gave him the advice he needed. The Soviet Commies rescued our astronauts after the Challenger disaster. Emad Salem, muslim, could have perhaps stopped the chain of terror that resulted in 9/11, if only the FBI had listened. “Triple Cross” by Peter Lance, has the footnotes, copies, etc. that you keep asking for. So does “charlie Wilson’s War” by George Crile. There at the library. Even Jim Marrs, “Inside Job” is. Oh, a transponder sends an alarm to air traffic controllers, and the Pentagon, when a pilot goes off course, or no longer controls the plane. Maybe Payne Stewart is the name of the famous golfer who died at the controls of his private jet. A military jet of ours, was next to that plane within 20 minutes. During Clinton’s term also, our military planes responded often and quickly when DC airspace was violated. Yet it took almost an hour for NORAD or any of the 15 military bases within short flying distance of DC or NYC to get a plane in the air. Anyone Furious about that, was labeled a “conspiracy theorist”. 3000 more americans killed in Iraq, no fury there, either. Like Pontius Pilate, Bush washes his hands, hands the towel to Obama, and so many of you suddenly wake up to this HUGE Anger.

  24. Ralph E. July 13, 2012 at 5:56 pm #

    Snake Hunter Sez… To Reality….

    BE ADVISED: Saddam Hussein ruled Iraq with a bloody iron fist for 30 years, and with the largest mechanized army in the middle east, he and his two goofy sons Uday and Qusay, had plans to dominate all of that part of the world. When Saddam decided to move his Russian Tanks to the Kuwait Border, then Bush 41 warned him not to invade
    his tiny oil-rich neighbor, for it would also give Saddam easy access to Saudi Arabia’s
    Vast Oil Deposits…. to Dominate World Oil Markets,.. From Bagdad!

    The unfortunate part of this whole scenario was simply that the Bush family were focused on maintaining a friendly business relationship with the Saudi Royals, and were not tuned to the Saudi Arabian’s Ultimate Goals of World Domination for Allah.

    The U.S.S.R. had superior military power in the decades after WWII, and with Nuclear Capability, and IRBM’s in Fidel Castro’s CUBA in 1962, that was the Pentagon’s most urgent consideration.

    The First Assault on North America was engineered by The Blind Sheikh in 1993 with a bomb in the parking garage of the World Trade Center, but that was not enough to bring the U.S. to Full Alert Status, and almost no one saw the possibility of a 9/11, or the killing nearly 3,000 innocent victims via 4 highjacked commerciai jet aircraft.

    Blaming a single political party, or Bush #41 or Bush #42, is beyond absurdity, in fact it borders on insanity, with a purposeful and deliberate grand deception a’la Far-Left
    Agendas of Progressive/Democrats that need to be sent back to their vicious Chicago enclaves of Corruption and Fraudulent Behavior, their Elect & Spend Tactics, and their plans for increasing taxation for the majority of “middle-class” citizens.

    We can expect to see more bankrupt communities, large and small, begin to sweep across this country, that has already begun in California and Scranton, Pennsylvania.

    If Barry H. Obama is re-elected for four more yrs, we will have lost this great republic!

    >>

    **** PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH – ONE NATION, INDIVISABLE, MY FRIENDS! ****

    reb — > http://www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.com
    ___ ___

  25. reality July 13, 2012 at 6:45 pm #

    Saddam Hussein had fought an 8 year long war with the Ayatollah’s Iran, and was broke. He said Kuwait had promised to help him with funds, as the Sunnis were terrified the Shiite Revolution would spread to their people. Kuwait reneged? Saddam powerful, you say? He begged and begged us, and could not believe when we attacked. Yes, he was a thug, a dictator, but he was “our” bastard, as we have had so many bastards all over the world. He also had a secular society, where Christians, Sunnis, Shia, etc., lived amongst each other. Dick Cheney said Iraq would spin off into chaos without Saddam, and it did. You’re proud of that? whhttp://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a80workwithwarlords “Triple Cross” by Peter Lance has footnotes, copies of docs, etc. Michael Mukasey saw the FBI photos of “middle-eastern” men at a Long Island shooting range in 1989. Emad Salem offered to get close to the Blind Sheik, if the FBI would pay him the equivalent of his hotel clerk salary. FBI honcho Carson Dunbar is named by Peter Lance, as insisting that Emad come in to the FBI office, wear a wire, because it was too much trouble for an agent to take his statements every time, etc. So Emad quit. Later, when he knew the Sheik was still planning an attack, he told the FBI to just follow the big redhead, and his little dark friend with a limp, to where the latter was helping Ramzi Yousef build the first WTC bomb, across the river in NJ. So PLEASE don’t say we had NO clue. “Triple Cross” is at the library. It has photos in the middle, if its like my copy. Just look at the pictures. Please. And it does not occur to you, that our Military Industrial Complex is laughing all the way to the bank? Our “Defense” budget is $750 BILLION a year now, after they completely, and utterly failed on 9/11, causing almost 3000 Americans to die, often horribly.

  26. reality July 14, 2012 at 3:52 pm #

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1754853/pg1
    “President Reagan met personally with Saudi Arabian officials both on the eve of the Saudis’ 1984 decision to begin contributing $ 1 million a month to the Nicaraguan contras, and again on the eve of the Saudi decision in February 1985 to sharply increase that contribution by giving $ 24 million more to the rebels, according to informed sources and public testimony.

    Robert C. McFarlane, Reagan’s former national security adviser, discussed the second of those meetings — between Reagan and Saudi Arabia’s King Fahd — in his testimony yesterday to the Iran-contra select committees.

    The first meeting involving the president, sources revealed yesterday, occurred in the first week of May 1984, shortly before the Saudis began contributing $ 1 million a month to the contras. Reagan met at the White House with Prince Bandar Bin Sultan, the Saudi ambassador in Washington, the sources said. The White House has found no notes on that meeting, the sources added, indicating there is no evidence of what was discussed.

    In that same month of May 1984, the Reagan administration invoked an emergency procedure to bypass Congress and sell the Saudis 400 Stinger antiaircraft missiles worth $ 40 mil- lion.

    In February 1985, Fahd paid a state visit to Washington and held a private conversation with Reagan, according to McFarlane’s testimony yesterday. Reagan gave no indication to his aides that he and Fahd discussed aid to the contras.

    McFarlane yesterday referred to Saudi Arabia only as “Country Two,” using a code agreed on with the House and Senate select committees investigating the Iran-contra affair. After describing the Reagan-Fahd meetings, he continued:

    “But within a day or so, I was advised by a resident official of Country Two [presumably Prince Bandar, the ambassador] that, whether in that meeting or not, that they, Country Two, had elected to carry on with their contributions they had made but to be at about double the monthly level it had been the previous year.”

    McFarlane said he advised Reagan a day or so later of this by putting a notecard in the briefing book the president read each morning. Reagan’s reaction, McFarlane said, was one “of gratitude and satisfaction, not of surprise.”

    A spokesman for the Saudi ambassador issued a statement yesterday saying that “during the visit of King Fahd to Washington in February 1985, the issue of aid to the contras was not raised or discussed either by King Fahd or President Reagan.”

    The embassy also denied that Reagan and Fahd had met privately, though another Saudi source said previously that such a meeting had occurred.

    Investigators in the Iran-contra affair are attempting to determine whether the Saudis expected or were improperly guaranteed foreign policy favors by the administration when the secret contra funding began.

    In his testimony yesterday, McFarlane recalled that the unnamed ambassador from “Country Two” had expressed its hopes during various informal discussions with him “about assistance we could provide — some cases arms sales — and any of a dozen kinds of bilateral cooperation that was on his mind at the time.”

    According to bank records and other sources, the Saudis first offered to contribute $ 1 million in May 1984 and made their first actual payment in July. In May 1984, The Washington Post reported that the CIA had actively solicited Saudi aid to the contras the previous month.

    During the memorial day weekend in late May, 400 Stingers were flown secretly to Saudi Arabia then transferred to the oil kingdom after the president signed a transfer order at 9:30 a.m. on May 29.

    Sources said that the administration had initially placed strict conditions on the sale of Stingers but King Fahd, who was distressed about the conditions dispatched a long, personal letter to President Reagan through Prince Bandar.

    Bandar carried the letter to the White House the first week of May 1984. After Reagan read it, he said, “We don’t put conditions on friends,” according to two sources who were present at the meeting.

    White House spokesman Dan Howard yesterday said that eventually, however, the administration placed “the toughest conditions we’ve ever imposed on anyone for the sale of Stinger missiles.” Howard said, “the missiles were sold for our own national interest,” and had no relationship to the alleged contra assistance.

    At the same time he authorized the transfer of Stingers, the president approved the deployment of a U.S. Air Force aerial tanker to assist in refueling Saudi jets, and the United States accelerated delivery by several months of $ 110 million worth of extra-capacity fuel tanks for Saudi F15s.

    One administration source said the Saudis considered the administration actions “an important favor” at a time of heightened tension in the Iran-Iraq war and Saudi anxiety about a possible Iranian attack on its oil fields.”

  27. Pamela Jarvis July 14, 2012 at 5:16 pm #

    Thank you Reality for some reality here. You outclass the lot of ’em.

  28. Amy Rosebush July 30, 2012 at 3:15 pm #

    I need a good book on this subject. Anyone here have one to recommend? There is too much back and forth in the response thread for me to keep up. I need to be educated on this subject. It seems like a very real fear for Obama “opposers”. I have no idea how much of it is alarmist and how much of it is based in truth. If anyone has a reasonably neutral book recommendation, please let me know.

    I am sad to see how mean everyone is to each other in here. I see some ages being thrown around. I am thirty eight. I guess some things just never change.

    Book ideas anyone? I will shop around. Once I finish Game of Thrones I will move on from fiction and onto this,

  29. Chris July 30, 2012 at 3:30 pm #

    Amy…Please consider the Q’uran translated by Usama Dakdok, an Egyptian who has translated this book into English. Also, look at the Haddith, if you can. Those will give
    you the printed word of what is taught in Madrassas everywhere.

    This is not the opinion of anyone, or the shaded view of anyone.

    Just a suggestion.

    C J

  30. Amy Rosebush July 30, 2012 at 5:00 pm #

    Oh, Chris I am sorry. I meant I wanted a book on the Muslim Brotherhood and the sense of impending doom upon America by Islamist infiltration. I haven’t read the Qur’an, but I am familiar with it’s teachings. I read a lot about that when I was looking at the Bible. Thanks for the suggestions. I want to know more about what is REALLY going on between America and the Muslim groups.

  31. reality August 2, 2012 at 6:07 pm #

    The Saudis have been funding Madrassas all over the world, for many years. Did they stop doing it after 9/11? They still observe Sharia law, don’t they? Though today I read Somalia’s new constitution follows Sharia law, but does allow abortion when the mother’s life is in danger. 9 of these United States, after Repubs became the Majority in their state legislatures, passed bills forbidding all abortions, even in the case of rape or incest, and even when the mother’s life is in danger. So maybe we should “look to the mote in our own eye”, as Jesus said, before we condemn other religions. And let’s stop with the “…home of the brave.” anthem. We are obviously so scared, that we are willing to continue spending tons of money on a “Defense” Dept. that didn’t work on 9/11.